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Riding boots

Postby Bertus Brokamp » 27 Nov 2010, 13:41

As I find that my hosen get ruined by horsesweat and chafing, I would like to get myself some proper late medieval thigh high riding boots. I know riding boots were around in the 2nd half of the 14th c. as they are mentioned in texts. The problem is that it seems to have been artistic convention NOT to depict them. The earliest I have seen them is in the oldest extant illuminated manuscript of Gaston Phoebus's book of the hunt (c. 1390 or so, not the more known early 15th c. one). There is the knee-high archaeological find from Konstanz in Stepping Through Time, but I think its construction with an open slit that gets buckled over might pose problems/look stupid when made into a thigh high version. So if any of you guys have any other iconographic or archaeolgical sources you can think of and willing to share, I would love you forever!
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Alex Nordin » 28 Nov 2010, 12:44

There was a really high boot found in helgeandsholmen in Stockholm, if i remember it correctly it is dated to our period.
I have some info on it and schematics at home, i´ll try to publish them this evening (If not someone beats me to it, they are quite well known among swedish reenactors"

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Re: Riding boots

Postby Astrid » 28 Nov 2010, 22:38

There is a picture in the "Grandes Chroniques de France", but I am not sure about the dating of this manuscript - probably it is 15th century.

See the guy in the very right having nice brown long-shafted boots.
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Bertus Brokamp » 29 Nov 2010, 11:25

Alex, sounds great!

Astrid, yeah love those kind of miniatures too. But they are mid 15th c. yes.
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Peter » 30 Nov 2010, 09:25

There is a late 14th century version of Gaston Phoebus's Livre de la Chasse where riding boots are "abound". If I get around to it I'll post some pics!
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Och med ett samvete som helvet rymligt,
Skall rasa fritt med blodbestänkta händer
Och meja edra friska jungfrur af
Och edra fagra spenabarn som gräs
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Carrasco » 08 Dec 2010, 23:51

Did you mean this one Peter, if I aint mistaking myself its around 1389 right?

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Re: Riding boots

Postby Bertus Brokamp » 09 Dec 2010, 00:05

Nope, that is the early 15th c. edition. Have a look at:
http://classes.bnf.fr/phebus/livre/manuscr.htm
The pics in the very late 14th c. edition are nice and give a good idea.

But as I portray 1370, I am searching for better / earlier depictions / archaeological finds.
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Peter » 09 Dec 2010, 16:43

Fredrik - Tha one is from 1405 or so, but before that was finished, the makers made a "dummy". It is in black and white - more like a sketch. I totally forgot about posting it - work is a git atm... I'll get to it. Sorry,
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Och med ett samvete som helvet rymligt,
Skall rasa fritt med blodbestänkta händer
Och meja edra friska jungfrur af
Och edra fagra spenabarn som gräs
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Peter » 01 Jan 2011, 23:52

Dang. It seems you already knew that one, Bertus. There is, however, a kind of famous boot, very well preserved, from Helgeandsholmen in Sweden. It is late 14th century. I'm not sure if it is a riding boot or just a boot.
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Then there is a boot from Uppsala, also late 14th century:
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I hope this helps.
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Re: Riding boots

Postby Bertus Brokamp » 05 Jan 2011, 12:39

Thanks, they look nice. The first one may have been a thigh high riding boot. The second one looks more like a knee heigh boot (i've never seen a boot with an opening all the way up the thigh).
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